White People
Righty: White people created Western Civilization and all its wonders. We built everything of note from the Parthenon to the personal computer. We explored the world from top to bottom, delivered most of it from ignorance and savagery, spread the Gospel, advanced the frontiers of science, discovered cures for dreaded diseases, and founded numerous great nations, including, of course, the United States. White people were designed by nature to rule. Why shouldn’t we band together and resist the steady erosion of our culture by foreign elements? Why is it OK for black people to celebrate black power when we’re not allowed to promote white power? We detect a double standard here, and we’d better do something about it before white societies are completely overrun by hostile dark-skinned immigrants who breed like mosquitoes. White people are already an endangered species, and the world won’t realize it until it’s too late. Self-hating white liberals like Lefty are probably our worst enemy. Two hundred years from now, Lefty, your coffee-colored great-great grandchildren will probably have to visit Iceland or Iowa to see actual specimens of white people.
Lefty: White racism has given us slavery, the Ku Klux Klan, Nazism and the Holocaust. Quite a legacy there! White supremacists are almost without exception moronic, malevolent, impotent psychopaths. (How could anyone believe in the notion of white superiority after watching these clowns in action?) What do white people have to celebrate other than a heritage of greed, exploitation, war, materialism and bad dancing (Fred Astaire and a few others excepted)? African Americans and other minorities are entitled to celebrate their cultures because they’ve been the victims of systematic white oppression. They must be given a chance to undo centuries of forced hypnosis that essentially told them “White is right.” There has never been a white pride movement capable of divorcing itself from racism. It is a poisonous issue that must be banished from every forum of civilized discourse.
The New Moderate:
The New Moderate must acknowledge Righty’s gripe about a double standard that allows dark-skinned minorities, but not white people, to celebrate their race-based cultures. I must also support Lefty’s contention that every “white pride” movement that has ever existed seems to have been tainted with obnoxious strains of racism. Why can’t white people simply look after their interests without bashing their darker brethren? Until they can, anyone who espouses white power or even white rights will be condemned (and justifiably so) as racist. (It might be that all ethnic “pride” celebrations are essentially racist or chauvinistic, regardless of who is doing the celebrating.)
Why would The New Moderate suggest that white people might want to “look after their interests”? Aren’t we slowly sinking into the bottomless bog of racism here? Stay with me for a moment. If current demographic trends continue unchecked, whites of European ancestry will account for less than half the population in both North America and Western Europe within half a century. In other words, white people will officially be a minority group. This revolutionary shift in population will forever alter the nature of Western societies and their cultures. (Forever is a LONG time, in case you’re not convinced.) It is not unreasonable to assume that the United States will eventually be speaking Spanish as its primary language, or that minarets will be sprouting alongside the abandoned cathedrals of France and England. And there is nothing wrong — repeat, NOTHING WRONG — with expressing dismay at this development. In fact, it might be desirable and even heroic to prevent it from happening. We’ve become so sensitized to leftist accusations of racism, and so bankrupt as a civilization, that we’re willing to just roll over and let the forces of history have their way with us.
There is nothing racist about simple self-preservation. I’m not even of European stock (my ancestors were Armenian Christians from the Ottoman Empire), and yet I’d mourn the disappearance of blond hair, blue eyes and freckles from our midst. I’d hate to see fine old languages like Dutch and Danish frittered into extinction. As much as I love Middle Eastern food, I’d never want it to replace the meaty succulence of German cooking or the epicurean delights of French. The New Moderate loves all nationalities in their infinite variety and would be loath to see any of them go the way of the dodo. I’d be just as unhappy if Americans settled en masse in the Middle East, reproduced out of control and festooned the stark landscape with golf courses and endless rows of McMansions.
How can white people “look after their interests”? Definitely not by mobilizing into fascist brigades, spouting racist diatribes or rounding up everyone who doesn’t fit the desired mold. No, if the white residents of North America and Western Europe don’t want to see their societies changed beyond recognition, they should simply do everything in their power to reverse the internal rot that has put them in this melancholy predicament. That means encouraging their own people to work at jobs they’ve been content to assign to immigrants. It means restricting immigration and downsizing the cushy welfare systems that attract foreigners who choose not to work. It means creating a vigorous culture that shuns cheap values and empty materialism. It means daring to sacrifice a little comfort for the scary proposition of having children. You can’t expect a race to survive when it lacks the resolve to reproduce.
The gods have always favored the hardy over the refined, in nations as well as individuals. The nations of the West (and especially Western Europe) are looking dangerously anemic right now. It might be that today’s white-dominated societies won’t survive in any form unless they receive an infusion of vitality from darker-hued populations. If those populations absorb Western values along the way, the darkening of Europe and America might actually be something to celebrate. But if those alien populations continue to multiply while remaining hostile to their host societies, the entire West can look forward to joining the Hittites, Babylonians, Phoenicians and Carthaginians in history’s dustbin.
Summary: White people of European stock have a right to look after their interests, especially in light of current demographic trends in the U.S. and Western Europe. Unfortunately, virtually every “white rights” movement has been laden with racism. What to do? Western societies need to shun decadence, depend less on foreign labor, and resolve to reproduce!
Not every “white Pride” movement is racist, only the ones called “white pride.” To be fair, most history (taught in American schools) is “white history” or Western history. Generally about how they conquered each other and most of the other races… Every time minority history is taught, it’s done so as part of Black history month, ECT. That’s not really a bad thing, we should know more about the cultures that comprise the country, as that (in theory) combats racism. Also, it’s not that the history of say, Uganda isn’t important, it’s that it just might not be as important to Americans/Westerners as the history of their own nations. Even if said history is how Europe abused and robbed all the other countries in the world. History isn’t racist, it is the facts, it only becomes racist when tinged by the bias of the writers. (vitors/white people…) I submit for example, The Civil War vs. The War of Northern Agression.
Before the times when the powerful nations made slaves, things weren’t too complicated in regard to racism. Then were only rich and poor people, but then there were wars and gathering of slaves (who usually were different in their races than their masters), and recently the complications appeared.
The slaves eventually regained their freedom, but not their “ticket” back to their native lands. Not as if the freed slaves wanted a “ticket” back anyway. I am not talking about US only. In Europe, freed slaved “blended” with the conquering nations but still were and are “noticed”.
Nowadays in the US, the cry against other races than “whites”, is ridiculous. The “whites” got what they deserved. If, in the South of the US, the “whites” were smart enough to develop machines to pick the cotton and process it, then the slaves were unnecessary. But they were powerful to kneel Africans, too stupid (technologically speaking), and too lazy to fix the problem they created. Today they are just trying to be working rednecks, but it is not helping too much.
Valdo: Sometimes I think the only solution to the race problem in America is for everyone to interbreed freely until nobody can tell what race we are.
No.Why would i want to mingle with Demon no like the Turkey Day you celebrate,seem to be a constant reminder That is to Remind them of the Slaughter of Innocent People,No That Blood Shed They Worship Blood Shed,No I won`t ever have a Thanksgiving FOR MURDERERS.God Do Not Want Us To Mix Our Blood
Good thinking Rick! But the barriers are still hard to overcome.
Still, it is puzzling me how come that there are such a big variety of races? Were there 4-5 kind of extraterrestrial aliens who left their seed on different places of the Earth?
What if in the future the aliens will come back and see only one race, and won’t be the one that was the smartest (the white)… just kidding
No, You Demon,God Created life,even you,for one purpose only then He Will Destroy Caucasians.
Oh, come off it, gt. Take a look at your hatred in the mirror sometime, OK? Black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists in my book.
Smart? or Ruthless assholes?
if you don’t know the answer then don’t post
You want the answer? How about both. They aren’t mutually exclusive, and “smart” doesn’t mean “nice”
Kind of awkward to ask questions then say :”You want the answer?”
No, thank you.
then don’t post…
Exactly! Keep that in mind.
My question was rhetorical, your answer was not needed nor asked for.
Really? (lol) Can you seriously not tell that mine was also rhetorical, or are you just screwin’with me
“There is no exquisite beauty…without some strangeness to the proportion.” –Edgar Allen Poe
On the cover of an issue of TIME Magazine from 20 years ago is a computer-generated picture of a woman amalgamated from all the world’s races, which riddle the background. Assuming that they chose the most attractive (symmetrical) representatives from those races, the result seemed adequate for the endeavor.
Pay close attention to that last statement. I said “adequate.”
Eyes not too light, not too dark. Skin just dark enough to not be Anglo. Moderately dark hair. None of the features are too big or small. It’s a completely homogenized face.
It doesn’t interest me in the slightest. She certainly wouldn’t turn my head if she walked by on the street.
Rick Bayan: “I’m not even of European stock (my ancestors were Armenian Christians from the Ottoman Empire), and yet I’d mourn the disappearance of blond hair, blue eyes and freckles from our midst.”
Amen. As a minority myself (I’m a mutt, actually), I’m well aware that one’s race has nothing to do with the deeper issues facing society and even civilization itself. But here is where the ideologies, specifically the left wing, begin to lose logical ground. Lefties tell us that the above homogenization is the desired result of a “diverse” society. Yet, when everyone looks the same–the inevitable result of a complete mix–there will BE no diversity. Of course I’m not saying races shouldn’t mix, but as Mr. Bayan suggested above, choosing not to doesn’t automatically make one “racist.” The issue of race is complex since, in the modern discourse, it is inextricable from culture. But every time you add something else to the “melting pot,” the initial solution is further diluted. This makes for a bland palette indeed.
The right wing’s folly in this is indifference. For as long as I can remember–I’m in my 30s–they have completely ignored the plight, however seemingly specious, of minorities in our culture. Some of those minorities have legitimate gripes, and when you sweep all of them into a “lazy, greedy, whiny” pile, is the reaction that surprising?
Obsession with race is one of the extremes we moderates must combat, for it overshadows the real issues concerning racial discrimination in a diverse culture. There certainly are way too many minorities crying wolf. I’m sickened, too, at seeing that, in the last decade at least, middle class whites have been following suit. Diversity, however, can only be achieved by preserving the traits that actually make us diverse. In other words, let’s not guilt our metropolitan or suburban white yuppies for choosing (and as the evidence shows you, more and more rarely) not to mix with black, hispanic and sometimes asian urbanites. (Yes, the stereotype was intentional. Send over the PC police.) We can call out the true racists–those who make their choices based upon fear, ignorance, and hate. These are the cancers of our society.
And yet we can’t, and shouldn’t, force everyone to love each other.
Great post, greyfoot. I go back and forth in my thinking on racial mingling. Yes, I love the variety of ethnicities, down to their food and their physical appearance. At the same time, I don’t think racial tensions will ever die 0ut unless we merge our genes — at least in the U.S. We’re a nation of immigrants, so maybe we should forge a new American “race.”
I feel different when it comes to the nationalities of Europe, though. Here we have thousand-year-old cultures that are being threatened by Muslim immigrants who are essentially hostile to their host societies. I don’t think there’s much mingling at this point (the cultural hostility is keeping them divided into two societies)… but down the road I see a dilution and even extinction of European cultures, and that would be a tragedy.
You Mean Demon,that is you,caucasian,your all alone on this like your Turkey Day That is to Remind them of the Slaughter of Innocent People,No That Blood Shed They Worship Blood Shed,No I won`t ever have a Thanksgiving FOR MURDERERS,caucasians have only one purpose to serve for our God.You Naturally Hate it is distilled in your hearts so you must obey,your time is short,i`ll try to find out exactlly what i need to do to be saved,its very you cannot do it,God has turned his back on caucasians you are evil God is not,we`ve paid your turn
Hell,No,No race intermarry,You really want to Kill us,Which is your mission for being in existance,this why you race Europeans caucasians are are cursed you try and try to rid your race of it curse you are the Demon God Speaks about in the Bible.No,for Interracial marriage,Cause you are going you want to take everyone with you.
Would you stop with the “everyone should have kids because I do?” You are being just as judgmental and prescriptive as the right you claim to disdain….How about, “those who want to have kids should have them…those who don’t..shouldn’t” Live and let live. I delight in friends who have babies. I delight in friends who choose not to. What IS your obsession with making everyone have kids? Seriously?
And you obviously think those of us who don’t have kids are frivolous in our reasons…because since we are different from YOU, we can’t possible be serious. But guess what, most people who choose not to have kids aren’t just doing it to avoid “inconvenience”. It is a deeply thought out decision that is a fundamental part of our life’s journey. And stop belittling us. I do not belittle those with children or who want them. I believe in the best education for our kids as possible..all of them…because it makes us all better. but part of being educated means you get to choose. And not everyone will choose like you.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, Cindy. I’m not mandating that middle class folks have to have kids to justify their existence here. (I’m just encouraging them.) I understand that not everyone wants or needs to be a parent. My concern is a demographic one: I’m concerned about the future of the endangered middle class, which is vital to civilization as we know it (or what’s left of it).
When poor people have the preponderance of children, the next generation will reflect the birth differential between middle class and poor. Move three or four generations down the line, with a continuing dearth of middle class births, and how are the remaining middle class people going to provide entitlements for all those poor folks? How will the government function when only a small percentage of the population is paying taxes? That’s the “problem” I have with the low middle class birth rate.
” How will the government function when only a small percentage of the population is paying taxes?”
Indeed, Now I feel very important indeed!
Merry Christmas to all.