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		<title>By: skb8721</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-23527</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not entirely.  She also drew heavily on Nietzsche, not exactly a moderate.  I&#039;m sure she drew on other philosophers, too.  Ultimately, she didn&#039;t follow her own philosophy and became a &quot;my-way-or-the-highway&quot; extremist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not entirely.  She also drew heavily on Nietzsche, not exactly a moderate.  I&#8217;m sure she drew on other philosophers, too.  Ultimately, she didn&#8217;t follow her own philosophy and became a &#8220;my-way-or-the-highway&#8221; extremist.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce R. Gilson</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-20475</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Angelina: WHERE did I say that &quot;because our president has dropped in popularity, it&#039;s, ipso facto, because of racism&quot;? I called Woodrow Wilson a racist, which he was. And I criticized King for his conduct in the Vietnam war. But nowhere in my post did I call Obama&#039;s opponents, OF WHOM I AM ONE, racists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelina: WHERE did I say that &#8220;because our president has dropped in popularity, it&#8217;s, ipso facto, because of racism&#8221;? I called Woodrow Wilson a racist, which he was. And I criticized King for his conduct in the Vietnam war. But nowhere in my post did I call Obama&#8217;s opponents, OF WHOM I AM ONE, racists.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-20465</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;ve got to be kdniidg.  you&#039;re saying because our president has dropped in popularity, it&#039;s, ipso facto, because of racism?  are you nuts?  people can disagree with a president&#039;s policies without anything more than that--disagreement with his policies.  this racism charge is extremely unhealthy and devalues the reality of REAL racism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#039;ve got to be kdniidg.  you&#039;re saying because our president has dropped in popularity, it&#039;s, ipso facto, because of racism?  are you nuts?  people can disagree with a president&#039;s policies without anything more than that&#8211;disagreement with his policies.  this racism charge is extremely unhealthy and devalues the reality of REAL racism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stewart</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-16837</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I consider myself a moderate, maybe a little right of you.  Your site is interesting but I think what we really need is a way to put these ideas into action.  Before finding this site I thought it would be nice if there was a moderate party.  So how does it start?  If the Republicans put up a right winger that might be a perfect scenerio, not that there would be time for a successful 3rd party run.  But it seems that in the primaries, the radicals control both parties.  I consider Romney a moderate.  He would do better in a moderate party.  He has governed moderately in Massachusetts.  Huntsman is also a moderate but doesn&#039;t have much support.  You could start by convincing the moderates from both parties to come together.  Democrats also pick extreme candidates like Obama.  It probably will take someone with a lot of credibility to start this, but the majority of America would relate to a moderate party more than to Democrats or Republicans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a moderate, maybe a little right of you.  Your site is interesting but I think what we really need is a way to put these ideas into action.  Before finding this site I thought it would be nice if there was a moderate party.  So how does it start?  If the Republicans put up a right winger that might be a perfect scenerio, not that there would be time for a successful 3rd party run.  But it seems that in the primaries, the radicals control both parties.  I consider Romney a moderate.  He would do better in a moderate party.  He has governed moderately in Massachusetts.  Huntsman is also a moderate but doesn&#8217;t have much support.  You could start by convincing the moderates from both parties to come together.  Democrats also pick extreme candidates like Obama.  It probably will take someone with a lot of credibility to start this, but the majority of America would relate to a moderate party more than to Democrats or Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: dhlii</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-16775</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Nixon ?

If we could forget about Watergate, we would have to confront the enormous economic mess he made. Nixon provided just about the most compelling proof that price controls do not work. Triggered or atleast threw gasoline on the inflation that wrecked the seventies, busted the financial system. You are correct that Nixon was progressive - a FAILED progressive. 

I will be happy to give Nixon great credit for his foreign policy successes, but it ends there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Nixon ?</p>
<p>If we could forget about Watergate, we would have to confront the enormous economic mess he made. Nixon provided just about the most compelling proof that price controls do not work. Triggered or atleast threw gasoline on the inflation that wrecked the seventies, busted the financial system. You are correct that Nixon was progressive &#8211; a FAILED progressive. </p>
<p>I will be happy to give Nixon great credit for his foreign policy successes, but it ends there.</p>
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		<title>By: dhlii</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-16774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dhlii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do know that Rand&#039;s objectivism is born of Aristotle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know that Rand&#8217;s objectivism is born of Aristotle.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-16563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In addition to being a racist (see eugenics) Wilson was a clearly a &quot;progressive.&quot; I am not sure which is worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being a racist (see eugenics) Wilson was a clearly a &#8220;progressive.&#8221; I am not sure which is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce R. Gilson</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-16559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce R. Gilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woodrow Wilson was a racist, pure and simple. And I don&#039;t like to see included the name of M. L. King, who seemed like a &quot;good guy&quot; when he was conducting a Gandhi-like campaign for racial equality, went sour in my mind when he showed he was less interested in freedom for South Vietnamese than in freedom for his own people, and took the side of the Communists in Vietnam who were crushing any hope for freedom. But I&#039;m glad to see someone besides myself appreciate the moderation of Richard Nixon, who is most people&#039;s villain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodrow Wilson was a racist, pure and simple. And I don&#8217;t like to see included the name of M. L. King, who seemed like a &#8220;good guy&#8221; when he was conducting a Gandhi-like campaign for racial equality, went sour in my mind when he showed he was less interested in freedom for South Vietnamese than in freedom for his own people, and took the side of the Communists in Vietnam who were crushing any hope for freedom. But I&#8217;m glad to see someone besides myself appreciate the moderation of Richard Nixon, who is most people&#8217;s villain.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Belloff</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-15753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Belloff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woodrow Wilson, he the fan of Eugenics? That speaks volumes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodrow Wilson, he the fan of Eugenics? That speaks volumes!</p>
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		<title>By: Giuliano Taverna</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/hall-of-fame/#comment-12918</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well since I&#039;m here I may as well...

I like the inclusion of Augustus, Marcus, and most of the us presidents excluding Nixon. My reasoning for that is based on his treasonous sabotage of the Paris peace talks, and the nightmare he unleashed in Cambodia, He was also a racist homophobic anti semite and a drunk, which we know from the tapes the paranoid loony kept of all his conversations. 

Also Woodrow Wilson was an out and out white supremacist, though I do like his foreign policy views and I more or less agree with the nice things you did say about him... I just don&#039;t like racists. 

Finally I&#039;d nominate two additional roman emperors, Vespasian, who ended a long period of strife and civil war, and brought a common sense approach to imperial politics that balanced the treasury and rebuilt the social fabric of the city, (famously starting the Colosseum, which while an arena of blood sport, is a lasting cultural landmark and the archetype of all modern stadiums.) Then there was Julian the Apostate, who managed to reestablish the roman empire after a bloody civil war, attempted to end the established theocracy created under Constantine, championed neo platonic philosophy as an alternative to Christianity and a remedy for the sectarian bloodshed plaguing the empire. He was noted for his modesty and hard work... how he died is not entirely known, he was either killed by the Persians or one of his christian bodyguards. Either is likely. 

Also for moderns, how about Salman Rushdie? Aside from the rather Socratic fight he had with the Iranian theocracy over his book he&#039;s also been an outspoken critic of Islamism and has made quite a few enemies on the &quot;left&quot; for his views... He is, to be fair a leftist and a close personal friend of Christopher Hitchens who I wouldn&#039;t suggest because he is in no way a moderate, nor would I want him to be. The following interview might also state my case somewhat on Rushdie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn831hlh2L4 You might also add in Irshad Manji as a bonus, after all how many openly gay female Muslim reformists are there? Not many that I&#039;m aware of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since I&#8217;m here I may as well&#8230;</p>
<p>I like the inclusion of Augustus, Marcus, and most of the us presidents excluding Nixon. My reasoning for that is based on his treasonous sabotage of the Paris peace talks, and the nightmare he unleashed in Cambodia, He was also a racist homophobic anti semite and a drunk, which we know from the tapes the paranoid loony kept of all his conversations. </p>
<p>Also Woodrow Wilson was an out and out white supremacist, though I do like his foreign policy views and I more or less agree with the nice things you did say about him&#8230; I just don&#8217;t like racists. </p>
<p>Finally I&#8217;d nominate two additional roman emperors, Vespasian, who ended a long period of strife and civil war, and brought a common sense approach to imperial politics that balanced the treasury and rebuilt the social fabric of the city, (famously starting the Colosseum, which while an arena of blood sport, is a lasting cultural landmark and the archetype of all modern stadiums.) Then there was Julian the Apostate, who managed to reestablish the roman empire after a bloody civil war, attempted to end the established theocracy created under Constantine, championed neo platonic philosophy as an alternative to Christianity and a remedy for the sectarian bloodshed plaguing the empire. He was noted for his modesty and hard work&#8230; how he died is not entirely known, he was either killed by the Persians or one of his christian bodyguards. Either is likely. </p>
<p>Also for moderns, how about Salman Rushdie? Aside from the rather Socratic fight he had with the Iranian theocracy over his book he&#8217;s also been an outspoken critic of Islamism and has made quite a few enemies on the &#8220;left&#8221; for his views&#8230; He is, to be fair a leftist and a close personal friend of Christopher Hitchens who I wouldn&#8217;t suggest because he is in no way a moderate, nor would I want him to be. The following interview might also state my case somewhat on Rushdie <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn831hlh2L4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn831hlh2L4</a> You might also add in Irshad Manji as a bonus, after all how many openly gay female Muslim reformists are there? Not many that I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
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