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		<title>Comment on Jews and Anti-Semitism by Ian Coleman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 05:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a gentile and I would like to know, why can&#039;t Jews learn some manners?  Jesus Christ (as we say).  Jews can&#039;t go around screaming that disliking Jews is a great evil and then not even try to be more pleasant.  You don&#039;t have to win every argument.  You don&#039;t have to brag all the time.  You can be nice to people if you really, really try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a gentile and I would like to know, why can&#8217;t Jews learn some manners?  Jesus Christ (as we say).  Jews can&#8217;t go around screaming that disliking Jews is a great evil and then not even try to be more pleasant.  You don&#8217;t have to win every argument.  You don&#8217;t have to brag all the time.  You can be nice to people if you really, really try.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Burial of Innocence: A Newtown Postscript by tommcgtx</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 17:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, let&#039;s take look at your examples:

1. &quot;there is no way we can not increase revenues&quot;
The problem with increasing revenues is that any increase in revenues, up to confiscating 100% of the wealth of the &quot;rich&quot; will not make a dent in the debt or the deficits. When you increase revenues, it only encourages them to spend even more, if that&#039;s even possible. The problem is they SPEND way too much. If there are things the government is currently doing that they can&#039;t afford, they need to stop. Tax increases are proven over and over again to stifle economic growth, while revenues to the government consistently prove to INCREASE when taxes are cut, due to robust economic growth and a wider tax base.

2. Conservatives do not argue that no weapons should be illegal, at least I have not heard it. I have heard some arguing that we should be able to own tanks and such, but I don&#039;t believe that is a widely held veiw. The whole &quot;huge ammo clips&quot; argument is bunk also, as mentioned in a previous post of mine. A sheriff did an experiment to challenge this notion, which can be found recorded on video, and shows that an individual can fire off just basically just as many rounds with several smaller magazines of ammo in the same amount of time as a high capacity magazine, including the time to change magazines. The difference was negligible. The point is, we already have a background check system in place, and expanding it will not prevent massacres like Sandy Hook. The evil among us do not need to pass background checks, as they don&#039;t feel the need to obey laws. These things only serve to stifle law abiding citizens from excercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

3. I applaud your not wanting to infringe on other Adult Females rights, however, you neglect to mention the rights of the unborn child. That is, unless you don&#039;t consider the unborn human beings. I think we should talk of women&#039;s responsibilities instead of &quot;rights&quot;. A human being is responsible for their actions, including their sexuality. Just because someone acts in an irresponsible manner, does not mean they gain the &quot;right&quot; to extinguish another life. I can see rare instances of rape and incest as exceptions, but too often this argument is used by &quot;pro-choice&quot; advocates to push for abortion on demand type policies.

So I really think that these ideas, while clothed in &quot;moderation&quot; only serve to enable the left to purchase more and more ground in these debates. They may seem &quot;moderate&quot; in terms of the current state of the debate, but I believe the &quot;debate&quot; has become somewhat muddled, and there are greater, universal truths that often aren&#039;t even considered, because they are talked about as &quot;extreme&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s take look at your examples:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;there is no way we can not increase revenues&#8221;<br />
The problem with increasing revenues is that any increase in revenues, up to confiscating 100% of the wealth of the &#8220;rich&#8221; will not make a dent in the debt or the deficits. When you increase revenues, it only encourages them to spend even more, if that&#8217;s even possible. The problem is they SPEND way too much. If there are things the government is currently doing that they can&#8217;t afford, they need to stop. Tax increases are proven over and over again to stifle economic growth, while revenues to the government consistently prove to INCREASE when taxes are cut, due to robust economic growth and a wider tax base.</p>
<p>2. Conservatives do not argue that no weapons should be illegal, at least I have not heard it. I have heard some arguing that we should be able to own tanks and such, but I don&#8217;t believe that is a widely held veiw. The whole &#8220;huge ammo clips&#8221; argument is bunk also, as mentioned in a previous post of mine. A sheriff did an experiment to challenge this notion, which can be found recorded on video, and shows that an individual can fire off just basically just as many rounds with several smaller magazines of ammo in the same amount of time as a high capacity magazine, including the time to change magazines. The difference was negligible. The point is, we already have a background check system in place, and expanding it will not prevent massacres like Sandy Hook. The evil among us do not need to pass background checks, as they don&#8217;t feel the need to obey laws. These things only serve to stifle law abiding citizens from excercising their 2nd Amendment rights.</p>
<p>3. I applaud your not wanting to infringe on other Adult Females rights, however, you neglect to mention the rights of the unborn child. That is, unless you don&#8217;t consider the unborn human beings. I think we should talk of women&#8217;s responsibilities instead of &#8220;rights&#8221;. A human being is responsible for their actions, including their sexuality. Just because someone acts in an irresponsible manner, does not mean they gain the &#8220;right&#8221; to extinguish another life. I can see rare instances of rape and incest as exceptions, but too often this argument is used by &#8220;pro-choice&#8221; advocates to push for abortion on demand type policies.</p>
<p>So I really think that these ideas, while clothed in &#8220;moderation&#8221; only serve to enable the left to purchase more and more ground in these debates. They may seem &#8220;moderate&#8221; in terms of the current state of the debate, but I believe the &#8220;debate&#8221; has become somewhat muddled, and there are greater, universal truths that often aren&#8217;t even considered, because they are talked about as &#8220;extreme&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jews and Anti-Semitism by mplo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a woman in her early 60&#039;s who was brought up in a very secular (non-religious) Jewish household, I&#039;ve observed that not all jews describe themselves as religious.  As for myself, however, I&#039;m assimilated enough so that I&#039;m not into the religious aspect, and yet I&#039;m still aware of Jewish history, if one gets the drift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a woman in her early 60&#8242;s who was brought up in a very secular (non-religious) Jewish household, I&#8217;ve observed that not all jews describe themselves as religious.  As for myself, however, I&#8217;m assimilated enough so that I&#8217;m not into the religious aspect, and yet I&#8217;m still aware of Jewish history, if one gets the drift.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jews and Anti-Semitism by mplo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, Rick Bayan!  Thanks.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jews and Anti-Semitism by Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Less inclined to work with their hands? Wow!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Burial of Innocence: A Newtown Postscript by Ron P</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2012/12/19/the-burial-of-innocence-a-newtown-postscript/#comment-101441</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderate most likely means different things to different people. I find that Simpson Bowles would be the moderate position in the debt and defict reduction model. For the left liberals, they would argue that no spending cuts can be made to social programs, even though they are going to make us go broke. On the conservative side, the right will argue that any tax increase will send the country into a financial crisis, even though there is no way we can not increase revenues to begin attacking the problem. On gun rights, the left will argue that no one needs anything other than a gun that is used for hunting. Pistols, semi automatic weapons are not needed, even for protection. The conservatives will argue that no weapons or ammo should be illegal. Even huge ammo clips. And anyone should be able to buy a gun without a background check. As a Moderate, there is a middle ground which includes background checks that do not infringe on the rights of Americans. For the third  example of what I believe is the difference with moderate thinking, the left will say any law making anything illegal when it comes to reproductive rights should not be passed including Plan B for teenage girls without a script. The right will argue anything that vaguely  resemble abortion should be illegal for any reason. This moderate does not believe in abortion, but I also do not believe my views should be imposed on other adult females, but also believe in parental involvement and physician involvement when it come to teenage kids. Last, liberals believe they can control peoples lives like Bloomberg and his soda ban. 

There are acceptible positions in the middle that have provided the model for democracy for years. Not until lately has the far fringes become the controlling parties and we see what has happened to the USA over the past 2 decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderate most likely means different things to different people. I find that Simpson Bowles would be the moderate position in the debt and defict reduction model. For the left liberals, they would argue that no spending cuts can be made to social programs, even though they are going to make us go broke. On the conservative side, the right will argue that any tax increase will send the country into a financial crisis, even though there is no way we can not increase revenues to begin attacking the problem. On gun rights, the left will argue that no one needs anything other than a gun that is used for hunting. Pistols, semi automatic weapons are not needed, even for protection. The conservatives will argue that no weapons or ammo should be illegal. Even huge ammo clips. And anyone should be able to buy a gun without a background check. As a Moderate, there is a middle ground which includes background checks that do not infringe on the rights of Americans. For the third  example of what I believe is the difference with moderate thinking, the left will say any law making anything illegal when it comes to reproductive rights should not be passed including Plan B for teenage girls without a script. The right will argue anything that vaguely  resemble abortion should be illegal for any reason. This moderate does not believe in abortion, but I also do not believe my views should be imposed on other adult females, but also believe in parental involvement and physician involvement when it come to teenage kids. Last, liberals believe they can control peoples lives like Bloomberg and his soda ban. </p>
<p>There are acceptible positions in the middle that have provided the model for democracy for years. Not until lately has the far fringes become the controlling parties and we see what has happened to the USA over the past 2 decades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Afrocentrism by Trini_American</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hit the nail on the head!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Afrocentrism by Trini_American</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are pros and cons to the dialogue......I agree to disagree yet very interesting arguments. So, here I am a first generation American born to Trinidadian parents.  My parents immigrated here to the US in 1977 from the island of Trinidad located in the West Indies and then I was born in 1979.

My mother, who is 50% East Indian and 50% black and my father is mixed with chinese, black, and spanish. My parents sound very exotic to some but the end result was a child (me) who looks black but with more defined features like the stereotypical chinky eyes and &quot;mixed&quot; looking hair. 

My maternal grandmother, who was black, glorified all her biracial children because she, my grandmother, was the outcast amongst her siblings, who had a different father from her and they were biracial (creole chinese). So she in return married my grandfather, a 3rd generation East Indian who ironically considered himself &quot;black&quot; because he was not raised as a traditional hindu so he can not identify with the Indian culture......he just looks it. 

Anyhow, I recall when i was a teenager or so asking my grandmother about her family history and background. She told me her mother was a French Creole.......my grandmother&#039;s maiden name was Piaget and she spoke creole. So here we go.....I&#039;m like well who was 100% African and black in your family cuz you look black for a reason.....OMG....she frumpled up her face and said the word &quot;African&quot; in such disdain that I couldn&#039;t believe what I was hearing or seeing. All she said was no we dont have Africans in my family. Ignorance. But she was born in 1924 and raised during a time where to be fear-skinned was doted upon and to be dark-skinned was inferior and shunned. And within the black race it is still regarded as such in these modern day times. But it just goes to show you how the mindset can be infiltrated generation to generation.

So how do I self-identify? I do not tick African-American on those forms that ask me to choose from the list of options. I check other and identify myself as Trinidadian-American. How can I deny all of these wonderful races that are a part of me just because I look more like one race than the other? Why not have European-American as an option also?  I was born American but raised Trini. I recall resenting my parents when I was younger because they were determined to raise me &quot;their&quot; way, they refused to have me become like the American kids I was friends with....idle, no respect and manners, not taking their school work seriously......

I grew up in the Wash., DC area, attended Syracuse University, got a good job (money wise) and moved to Philly, where as the gentleman somewhere above mentioned that a lot of blacks in Philly are Muslim......Yes they are and it irritates me for a different reason.  In my opinion it&#039;s a monkey see, monkey do thing and an insult to the &quot;real&quot; practicing Muslims/Islamic culture.  

So.....are the Egyptians black? So based on what I have read and gathered from Egyptian friends who are near and dear.......Present day Egypt is more or less Arab which makes sense considering the vast majority of North Africa was taken over by the Arabs. I think the rest is self-explanatory as to who the Arabs ran out and conquered. And yes they too along with Black Africans sold many Africans into slavery for profit. Its a shame on both ends as far as the mindset of the European in those times to want enslave folks to do their labor, the torture alone is sickening and those in Africa who sold their own into it. 2 wrongs don&#039;t make a right. But that was history and we&#039;re supposed to learn from it. I would just like to say from my own personal experiences from college on up to my everyday work life~physically its gone but mentality wise it is not. And I&#039;ve never heard Black American claiming Egypt as part of their ancestry, maybe in the context of being &quot;African&quot; and not black.

And Black America is so lost when it comes to their identity. And the reason I glorify mine for being a first generation American. And I think this is why they patronize Africans.....it is the one bond that is lost but not forgotten.....

I recall visiting Nigeria with a few close friends (asian, nigerian, and american) back in 2006. One of my friends was going to try and start a business there after visiting Nigeria before and falling in love with the country. We went to a business seminar to support her which was run by a caucasian American and everything sounded great until he said &quot;Africa has a lot of problems. We want to forget about the problems and take their money&quot; which in my opinion has always been the case......What other continent has so many natural resources from oil to minerals to precious metals......And a pity that the govt is so corrupt in Africa. Money is the root of all evil.
And yes Jesus was middle-eastern and looked probably like a stereotypical Israeli. Today,  you see people not fitting the stereotypical look of certain geographical areas due to the mixing of races and ethnicities. Such is life and so are the times we live in.

Love, Peace, and Happiness]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are pros and cons to the dialogue&#8230;&#8230;I agree to disagree yet very interesting arguments. So, here I am a first generation American born to Trinidadian parents.  My parents immigrated here to the US in 1977 from the island of Trinidad located in the West Indies and then I was born in 1979.</p>
<p>My mother, who is 50% East Indian and 50% black and my father is mixed with chinese, black, and spanish. My parents sound very exotic to some but the end result was a child (me) who looks black but with more defined features like the stereotypical chinky eyes and &#8220;mixed&#8221; looking hair. </p>
<p>My maternal grandmother, who was black, glorified all her biracial children because she, my grandmother, was the outcast amongst her siblings, who had a different father from her and they were biracial (creole chinese). So she in return married my grandfather, a 3rd generation East Indian who ironically considered himself &#8220;black&#8221; because he was not raised as a traditional hindu so he can not identify with the Indian culture&#8230;&#8230;he just looks it. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I recall when i was a teenager or so asking my grandmother about her family history and background. She told me her mother was a French Creole&#8230;&#8230;.my grandmother&#8217;s maiden name was Piaget and she spoke creole. So here we go&#8230;..I&#8217;m like well who was 100% African and black in your family cuz you look black for a reason&#8230;..OMG&#8230;.she frumpled up her face and said the word &#8220;African&#8221; in such disdain that I couldn&#8217;t believe what I was hearing or seeing. All she said was no we dont have Africans in my family. Ignorance. But she was born in 1924 and raised during a time where to be fear-skinned was doted upon and to be dark-skinned was inferior and shunned. And within the black race it is still regarded as such in these modern day times. But it just goes to show you how the mindset can be infiltrated generation to generation.</p>
<p>So how do I self-identify? I do not tick African-American on those forms that ask me to choose from the list of options. I check other and identify myself as Trinidadian-American. How can I deny all of these wonderful races that are a part of me just because I look more like one race than the other? Why not have European-American as an option also?  I was born American but raised Trini. I recall resenting my parents when I was younger because they were determined to raise me &#8220;their&#8221; way, they refused to have me become like the American kids I was friends with&#8230;.idle, no respect and manners, not taking their school work seriously&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I grew up in the Wash., DC area, attended Syracuse University, got a good job (money wise) and moved to Philly, where as the gentleman somewhere above mentioned that a lot of blacks in Philly are Muslim&#8230;&#8230;Yes they are and it irritates me for a different reason.  In my opinion it&#8217;s a monkey see, monkey do thing and an insult to the &#8220;real&#8221; practicing Muslims/Islamic culture.  </p>
<p>So&#8230;..are the Egyptians black? So based on what I have read and gathered from Egyptian friends who are near and dear&#8230;&#8230;.Present day Egypt is more or less Arab which makes sense considering the vast majority of North Africa was taken over by the Arabs. I think the rest is self-explanatory as to who the Arabs ran out and conquered. And yes they too along with Black Africans sold many Africans into slavery for profit. Its a shame on both ends as far as the mindset of the European in those times to want enslave folks to do their labor, the torture alone is sickening and those in Africa who sold their own into it. 2 wrongs don&#8217;t make a right. But that was history and we&#8217;re supposed to learn from it. I would just like to say from my own personal experiences from college on up to my everyday work life~physically its gone but mentality wise it is not. And I&#8217;ve never heard Black American claiming Egypt as part of their ancestry, maybe in the context of being &#8220;African&#8221; and not black.</p>
<p>And Black America is so lost when it comes to their identity. And the reason I glorify mine for being a first generation American. And I think this is why they patronize Africans&#8230;..it is the one bond that is lost but not forgotten&#8230;..</p>
<p>I recall visiting Nigeria with a few close friends (asian, nigerian, and american) back in 2006. One of my friends was going to try and start a business there after visiting Nigeria before and falling in love with the country. We went to a business seminar to support her which was run by a caucasian American and everything sounded great until he said &#8220;Africa has a lot of problems. We want to forget about the problems and take their money&#8221; which in my opinion has always been the case&#8230;&#8230;What other continent has so many natural resources from oil to minerals to precious metals&#8230;&#8230;And a pity that the govt is so corrupt in Africa. Money is the root of all evil.<br />
And yes Jesus was middle-eastern and looked probably like a stereotypical Israeli. Today,  you see people not fitting the stereotypical look of certain geographical areas due to the mixing of races and ethnicities. Such is life and so are the times we live in.</p>
<p>Love, Peace, and Happiness</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Burial of Innocence: A Newtown Postscript by tommcgtx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommcgtx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 21:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand the appeal of being a &quot;moderate&quot;. What if one of the &quot;extreme&quot; positions is right (or should I say correct)? I tend to think that &quot;moderates&quot; simply proclaim that they are in the middle somewhere as a way to present themselves above the fray, superior to those wascawy extwemists. Or is it a more cowardly state being afraid to take a position? I&#039;m not trying to be offensive, I just don&#039;t get it. I think if you look at &quot;moderate&quot; positions, they usually fall to either side anyway, in theory or in practical effect. Take this issue for instance. I know this site and it&#039;s author don&#039;t speak for all &quot;moderates&quot;, but the effect would be limiting the 2nd Amendment rights put into the Constitution for valid reasons, and would have the effect of granting the extreme left it&#039;s goals, even if only moving it a little closer to their goals. What then? When the goal posts are moved further toward no guns, what will be the next compromising moderate position?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the appeal of being a &#8220;moderate&#8221;. What if one of the &#8220;extreme&#8221; positions is right (or should I say correct)? I tend to think that &#8220;moderates&#8221; simply proclaim that they are in the middle somewhere as a way to present themselves above the fray, superior to those wascawy extwemists. Or is it a more cowardly state being afraid to take a position? I&#8217;m not trying to be offensive, I just don&#8217;t get it. I think if you look at &#8220;moderate&#8221; positions, they usually fall to either side anyway, in theory or in practical effect. Take this issue for instance. I know this site and it&#8217;s author don&#8217;t speak for all &#8220;moderates&#8221;, but the effect would be limiting the 2nd Amendment rights put into the Constitution for valid reasons, and would have the effect of granting the extreme left it&#8217;s goals, even if only moving it a little closer to their goals. What then? When the goal posts are moved further toward no guns, what will be the next compromising moderate position?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Burial of Innocence: A Newtown Postscript by Ron P</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure would be nice if Rick could find someone to begin updating this site once again. I can not find any &quot;moderate &quot; sites that are not liberal rag sheets or conservative wacko&#039;s. Guess thats why the majority that are moderates are not represented in politics. Most don&#039;t care enough to make their points known, so we live with the far wings of each party dictating political policies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure would be nice if Rick could find someone to begin updating this site once again. I can not find any &#8220;moderate &#8221; sites that are not liberal rag sheets or conservative wacko&#8217;s. Guess thats why the majority that are moderates are not represented in politics. Most don&#8217;t care enough to make their points known, so we live with the far wings of each party dictating political policies.</p>
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