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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Address: It&#8217;s All About the Mojo</title>
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		<title>By: valdobiade</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valdobiade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Although the idea that the Native Americans could have developed torpedoes in the 15th century in order to avoid all of this is intriguing. I blame them.&quot;

Priscilla, did you know about the unsolved mysteries from Nazca and other places in South America, that make you think about some super advanced civilizations? From these civilizations, it seems, the Natives did not learn to be warmongers against people they did not understand.

If Natives were thinking as nowadays US Republicans, the Earth would be long gone. You want to blame Natives for not being Republican-like? I mean, it is not that hard to think like a Republican: have guns, look for wars, ban abortion to have more soldiers, preemptive strike anywhere, be the most powerful nation in the world even if other countries would suffer from that, don&#039;t be cooperative for the good of other nations, be unlimited rich and powerful, be religious in a weird ways - in a word : don&#039;t be moderate for it looks like socialism.

A lot of totalitarian things that were done in the communist countries had model from the US. Just a few examples : Concentrations camps  models from Native American extermination, Communist Propaganda models from Commercial adds,  language and culture coercion model from &quot;Melting-pot&quot;...

Sure, Democrats are not better, ain&#039;t they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although the idea that the Native Americans could have developed torpedoes in the 15th century in order to avoid all of this is intriguing. I blame them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Priscilla, did you know about the unsolved mysteries from Nazca and other places in South America, that make you think about some super advanced civilizations? From these civilizations, it seems, the Natives did not learn to be warmongers against people they did not understand.</p>
<p>If Natives were thinking as nowadays US Republicans, the Earth would be long gone. You want to blame Natives for not being Republican-like? I mean, it is not that hard to think like a Republican: have guns, look for wars, ban abortion to have more soldiers, preemptive strike anywhere, be the most powerful nation in the world even if other countries would suffer from that, don&#8217;t be cooperative for the good of other nations, be unlimited rich and powerful, be religious in a weird ways &#8211; in a word : don&#8217;t be moderate for it looks like socialism.</p>
<p>A lot of totalitarian things that were done in the communist countries had model from the US. Just a few examples : Concentrations camps  models from Native American extermination, Communist Propaganda models from Commercial adds,  language and culture coercion model from &#8220;Melting-pot&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Sure, Democrats are not better, ain&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Priscilla</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priscilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever.....the blame game is still a useless smokescreen and primarily played by those who aren&#039;t really willing to fix anything.  

Although the idea that the Native Americans could have developed torpedoes in the 15th century in order to avoid all of this is intriguing.  I blame them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever&#8230;..the blame game is still a useless smokescreen and primarily played by those who aren&#8217;t really willing to fix anything.  </p>
<p>Although the idea that the Native Americans could have developed torpedoes in the 15th century in order to avoid all of this is intriguing.  I blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimately, responsibility is pushed to those who had the last chance to TRY to fix, then they get to play the blame game...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, responsibility is pushed to those who had the last chance to TRY to fix, then they get to play the blame game&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: valdobiade</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valdobiade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Says Priscilla: &quot;And the economic meltdown is essentially a longterm result of the Community Reinvestment Act, passed in the Carter administration.&quot;
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Nope, the meltdown is the results of Natives Indians for not having the technology to torpedo that Christopher Columbus junk :)  

Should we push the meltdown further back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says Priscilla: &#8220;And the economic meltdown is essentially a longterm result of the Community Reinvestment Act, passed in the Carter administration.&#8221;<br />
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Nope, the meltdown is the results of Natives Indians for not having the technology to torpedo that Christopher Columbus junk <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Should we push the meltdown further back?</p>
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		<title>By: Priscilla</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priscilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta agree with you on the &quot;nobody&#039;s in charge&quot; thing, TK....and also that the GOP was no better when it had the congressional majorities.  The crumbling infrastructure and economic meltdown though shouldn&#039;t really be pinned on tBush.  Public union demands and legislative earmarking have gutted any real ability for  the states and feds  to use money for meaningful infrastructure improvement.  And the economic meltdown is essentially a longterm result of the Community Reinvestment Act, passed in the Carter administration.  Granted the GOP had their chance to kill it, but their efforts were puny, as they were too busy spending tax money like drunken sailors (or should I say drunken Democarats?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree with you on the &#8220;nobody&#8217;s in charge&#8221; thing, TK&#8230;.and also that the GOP was no better when it had the congressional majorities.  The crumbling infrastructure and economic meltdown though shouldn&#8217;t really be pinned on tBush.  Public union demands and legislative earmarking have gutted any real ability for  the states and feds  to use money for meaningful infrastructure improvement.  And the economic meltdown is essentially a longterm result of the Community Reinvestment Act, passed in the Carter administration.  Granted the GOP had their chance to kill it, but their efforts were puny, as they were too busy spending tax money like drunken sailors (or should I say drunken Democarats?).</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drunk with power??? The Democrats wouldn&#039;t know what to do with power if it bit them in the crotch. (as it seems to have done...) He hasn&#039;t ducked responsibility on Healthcare, he admitted in the SOTU that he should have done more. (and will probably apologize latter for continuing to do nothing) I doubt that the left wing of the Democratic party is in charge, it seems more likely that nobody&#039;s in charge. When people are in charge, stuff happens. Like when the right wing of the Republican party was in charge for eight years of Bush, and we got stuck in two wars, a massive deficit, the &quot;Patriot Act&quot;, crumbling infrastructure, &quot;no child left behind,&quot; and an economic meltdown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drunk with power??? The Democrats wouldn&#8217;t know what to do with power if it bit them in the crotch. (as it seems to have done&#8230;) He hasn&#8217;t ducked responsibility on Healthcare, he admitted in the SOTU that he should have done more. (and will probably apologize latter for continuing to do nothing) I doubt that the left wing of the Democratic party is in charge, it seems more likely that nobody&#8217;s in charge. When people are in charge, stuff happens. Like when the right wing of the Republican party was in charge for eight years of Bush, and we got stuck in two wars, a massive deficit, the &#8220;Patriot Act&#8221;, crumbling infrastructure, &#8220;no child left behind,&#8221; and an economic meltdown.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Obama is playing the blame game, he&#039;s just correcting Republicans when they do. They are trying to blame the entire economy on him, when the blame rests with their party, (mostly) and the president who let it slide for eight years. (And Clinton, who also is responsible for removing some of the fail safes that led to the housing debacle.) Rebuplicans keep putting forward the same things, tax cuts for big business, and cutting government spending at home. Eight years of that and the &quot;Great Recession&quot; have failed to teach them to try something new.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama is playing the blame game, he&#8217;s just correcting Republicans when they do. They are trying to blame the entire economy on him, when the blame rests with their party, (mostly) and the president who let it slide for eight years. (And Clinton, who also is responsible for removing some of the fail safes that led to the housing debacle.) Rebuplicans keep putting forward the same things, tax cuts for big business, and cutting government spending at home. Eight years of that and the &#8220;Great Recession&#8221; have failed to teach them to try something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Priscilla</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priscilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many, many presidents inherit an unholy mess.  God knows, Ronald Reagan did - yet I would defy you to find me one quote where he whined about it all being Carter&#039;s fault.  Clinton inherited a lot of economic and foreign policy messes, but he did not attack Reagan or Bush 41.  Sorry but just attacking the policies of your predecessor is not a solution, and the &quot;Blame it on Bush&quot; song is getting really played out.

TK/Valdo , I am not, and was never a big Bush fan.  But I am less of an Obama fan, and here is why....the man has outsourced his leadership to the left wing of the Democratic party, and  they have been drunk with the power of their huge majorities in Congress....majorities which have done them little good, because many, if not most Dems are way more moderate than their current leadership (and that includes Obama, even though he has tried to duck responsibility for the current logjam on healthcare).   You may think Bush is a moron - I would not go that far - but he was able to work very effectively with most of the Democrats in Congress, until the war became his political millstone.

The blame game may feel satisfying, but ultimately it is useless and even destructive.

And yes, I give Obama credit for accepting the GOP invitation to meet......I think it is telling that he never did this before the Massachusetts election, but it&#039;s a good start.  If he continues to be open to this sort of give-and-take, I&#039;ll certainly change my take on him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many, many presidents inherit an unholy mess.  God knows, Ronald Reagan did &#8211; yet I would defy you to find me one quote where he whined about it all being Carter&#8217;s fault.  Clinton inherited a lot of economic and foreign policy messes, but he did not attack Reagan or Bush 41.  Sorry but just attacking the policies of your predecessor is not a solution, and the &#8220;Blame it on Bush&#8221; song is getting really played out.</p>
<p>TK/Valdo , I am not, and was never a big Bush fan.  But I am less of an Obama fan, and here is why&#8230;.the man has outsourced his leadership to the left wing of the Democratic party, and  they have been drunk with the power of their huge majorities in Congress&#8230;.majorities which have done them little good, because many, if not most Dems are way more moderate than their current leadership (and that includes Obama, even though he has tried to duck responsibility for the current logjam on healthcare).   You may think Bush is a moron &#8211; I would not go that far &#8211; but he was able to work very effectively with most of the Democrats in Congress, until the war became his political millstone.</p>
<p>The blame game may feel satisfying, but ultimately it is useless and even destructive.</p>
<p>And yes, I give Obama credit for accepting the GOP invitation to meet&#8230;&#8230;I think it is telling that he never did this before the Massachusetts election, but it&#8217;s a good start.  If he continues to be open to this sort of give-and-take, I&#8217;ll certainly change my take on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bayan</title>
		<link>http://newmoderate.com/2010/01/28/obamas-address-its-all-about-the-mojo/#comment-755</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valdo: You have a point about presidential attacks on their predecessors. Nobody can deny that Obama inherited an unholy mess, and now Republicans are gaining ground. I don&#039;t think Obama should overdo the blame game, but I can&#039;t blame him for playing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valdo: You have a point about presidential attacks on their predecessors. Nobody can deny that Obama inherited an unholy mess, and now Republicans are gaining ground. I don&#8217;t think Obama should overdo the blame game, but I can&#8217;t blame him for playing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bayan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Bayan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Priscilla: Campaign reform has to start someplace, and eliminating big money from corporations is a good start. As I said, eventually the system should be reconfigured so that no special interest can buy an election. Of course, that means raising taxes, but I think it&#039;&#039;s a small price to pay for regaining a pure representative democracy. 

I also think yesterday&#039;s pow-wow with the Republicans, as contentious as it was, can only be a good thing. Obama should be dialoguing more often with the opposition -- including his own party. As TK noted, he&#039;s not having an easy time with the more ideologically driven Democrats. (To me, that proves Obama&#039;s moderate credentials.) 

And no, I&#039;d never kick you off the committee. There are people who take political disagreements personally, and people who don&#039;t. I think we fall into the latter category. Besides, I need someone on the committee who can remember Mrs. Chang. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priscilla: Campaign reform has to start someplace, and eliminating big money from corporations is a good start. As I said, eventually the system should be reconfigured so that no special interest can buy an election. Of course, that means raising taxes, but I think it&#8221;s a small price to pay for regaining a pure representative democracy. </p>
<p>I also think yesterday&#8217;s pow-wow with the Republicans, as contentious as it was, can only be a good thing. Obama should be dialoguing more often with the opposition &#8212; including his own party. As TK noted, he&#8217;s not having an easy time with the more ideologically driven Democrats. (To me, that proves Obama&#8217;s moderate credentials.) </p>
<p>And no, I&#8217;d never kick you off the committee. There are people who take political disagreements personally, and people who don&#8217;t. I think we fall into the latter category. Besides, I need someone on the committee who can remember Mrs. Chang. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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